I would like to ask the following to the Israel bashers in here:
Do you believe there are such things as facts – yes or no?
If yes, why do you falsely claim that a ‘Palestinian people exists and yet reject 4000 years of Jewish history in Israel? If you accept facts, why do you ignore that the Arab world seeks Israel’s annihilation since 1948? Is annihilating an entire country or ethnic group of people a human right? If Israel decides to do the same with the Arabs and Moslems – will that be considered to be a human right?
If you deny the existence of facts and if you insist that there is no reality or facts but merely subjective opinions, wkat makes your opinions moral or legitimate? After all – there are just opinions and no right and wrong?
If you adher to equality of all human beings, why do you reject pro-Israeli statements as “people who studied at an Israeli university” and uses the word Zionist as if it was an insult? First of all, no pro-Israeli comment, provided it is factual, should be discarded merely because a Jewish person/Israeli person made that statement because that means you judge that person due to his ethnic and racial identity – and that’s racist and morally repugnant. Second, Zionist is not an insult nor is it an invective.
I have a few questions for you Jew haters and Israel bashers – provided of course you admit the existence of facts and reality and the quality of all men – Jews included:
1) Why is “Palestine” a Roma’n/Latin name? Why do Arab nationalists use a Roman/Latin name?
2) Why is therre no letter “p” in Arabic?
3) Why is there no “Palestine” or “Palestinians ever mentioned – not once, in the Bible or the Koran?
4) Why does both the Bible and the Koran admit that Israel is the Jewish homeland and therefore Jewish property?
5) Why are pro-Israeli Christians accused of being “subjective” due to their religious beliefs but you don’t say the same about pro-Arab voices? Why are pro-Israeli voices among non Jews ‘subjective” whereas pro-Arab opinions are all of the sudden accepted as the truth? Christians may be religious, but that does not mean they are not speaking the truth. They are in fact refering to ancient history.
6) Why are Jewish claims to Israel always equated with the Bible and why is the Bible always portrayed as religious jiggery-pokery? First of all, the Bible is not one books but several books in one volume written by many authors for many centuries. Second, the Bible does not only consist of religious jiggery-pokery and myths and legends. Actual geographical locations in the Bible are to be found in real physical Israel of the ancient times and of today (and also verified by other ancient civilizations) – places such as: Jerusalem, Hebron, Jericho, Betlehem, Beer Sheva, Yafo (an Israelite seaport used by the ancient kings – King David and King Solomon to trade with Phoenicia – recounted both by the Bible and by non Jewish and non Biblical sources as well), Nasareth, Masada, Dead Sea and so on. All these places exist in the real world. Also the Bible speaks of the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Yehuda. But it is not only the Bible that speaks of ancient Israel. Ancient Egyptian, Hittite, Canaanite, Edomite, Phoenician, Philisteene, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman sources confirm the exisence of ancient Israel and ancient Yehuda/Judea and the ancient Jews/Israelites. Many non Jewish ancient civilizations confirm in their historical records what is already confirmed in the Bible. The Bible speaks of the Assyrian conquest of the Kingdom of Israel. The Assyrians and their historical records also speak of this conquest of Israel and the bringing of Israelite slaves into Assyria. The Bible speaks of the Babylonian conquest of the Kingdom of Yehuda. Babylonian records speak of the destruction and conquest of Yehuda and the Jewish exiles brought from Yehuda into Babylon. Ancient Persian records reveal that King Cyrus the Great vanquished the Babylonians and allowed the Jews to return to Israel/Yehuda and rebuild the land, the city of Jerusalem the Jewish temple. The Greeks speak of the Jews and so do the Romans. Why do all these civilizations mention the Jews if we Jews “have no rights to the land” and that our ancient history is supposedly “nonsense”? How do you explain all these things? Rejecting the Bible all together as jiggery-pokery reveals extreme and blatant ignorance and second, with or without the belief in God, with or without the belief that God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish/Israelite people, it still remains an undeniable historical fact that millions of Jewish men, women and children lived in the ancient land of Israel called -you guessed it -Israel. Independently of their religious beliefs, ancient Israel was and is a very real, tangible and physical fact.
7) Nationalism has been alien to the Arabs who have for 1400 years lived as nomads and Bedouins in multi-ethnic and multi-racial “Arab” empires, whose majority population – locals, subjects, citizens, slaves, soldiers, mercenaries, physicians, mathematicians, merchants, kings and royals were no ethnic Arabs – merely Arab speaking Moslems of primarily Iranian/Persian, Kurdish, Turkish, Jewish, Berber and African origins. Very few kings and royals and indeed very few people in the Arab empires could boast with pure Arabian blood. The Koran’s definition of an Arab is a Nomad – a social function – someone who lives in the desert, but since any ethnic group can live in the desert it doesn’t have to entail a certain ethnic character. The Arab definition of an Arab is someone who speaks Arabic. Anyone who learns Arabic becomes an Arab. The Arabs of today, in 22 Arab states, and the Arabs of Israel today and the so called “Palestinians”, are ethnically speaking as mixed as the Arabs of the past. If there are no Arabs today, how can there be any “Palestinian” “Arabs” to begin with?
8) Jewish/Israelite history started 2000 BCE meaning 4000 years ago. Arab history started in the 7th century C.E 1400 years ago, on the south wester corner of the Arabian peninsula, hundreds of kilometers away from Israel, 2600 years after the Jews established themselves in the land of Israel. How can the Arabs be the natives of Israel? How could the Arabs have lived in Israel prior to the Jews? Historically, geographically and physically impossible.
9) Most of the so called “Palestinians” are actually multi-ethnic/multi-racial Arab speaking Moslems of primarily Iranian, Kurdish, Turkish, Afghan, Egyptian, Sudanese, Somalian, Black African, Tartar, Bosnian, Albanian, Greeks, Italian and German origins and some of them arrived in Israel 200-300 years ago and moved here due to the political ambitions of the Ottoman empire (the Turks), many of them arrived in Israel (or Palestine under Ottoman rule) as guest workers coming to Jewish cities and industries being built in the land of Israel in the mid and late 19th century, but most of them, the vast majority of those “Palestinians” came to Israel in the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. That’s hardly ancient history and that’s hardly a homogenous distinct united separate ethnic group of people.
10) The Romans renamed Israel/Yehuda into “Palestine” or Palaestina to spite the Jews since the Jews fought against the Roman occupation 2000 years ago (the Romans mentioned no “Palestinian’ people or country – why?) and since Jews made such a resistance, the Romans who vanquished the Jews in the 2nd century C.E wanted to erase all evidence that Israel is the Jewish homeland, so the Romans searched through historical records and found out that the arch enemy of ancient Israel was the Philisteenes – an Indo-European ethnic group of people (also mentioned in the Bible that you love to hate) originating from the today Greek island of Crete – they were no Arabs, spoke no Arabic and were no Moslems, but they conquered the Israelite coast and built cities like Gaza, Ashkelon and Ashdod and they fought both against Israel and Egypt and lost against both nations. The Philisteenes were utterly destroyed and disappeared from the stage of history possibly in the 9th or 8th century BCE – meaning 2700-2800 years ago, 900-1000 years before the Romans began to call Israel “Palaestina” and 1300-1400 years before a single Arab or Moslem or mosque even existed in Israel or the Middle East or the Arabian peninsula. But the name “Palestine”comes from Philisteene which means “invader”. If Arabs/”Palestinians”claim Philisteene ancestry they have to explain how they can both the Arabs from the Arabian peninsula and yet belong to a completely different ethnic-cultural and linguistic group of people not from the Arabian peninsula but from Crete- 1300-1400 years before Arabs even entered Israel as invaders and conquerors. Claiming that Arabs/”Palestinians” that entered Israel primarily in the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s are related to an ethnic group of people that has been dead now for at least 2700-2800 years is intellectually dishonest.
11) If Arabs/”Palestinians” claim Canaanite ancestry they will fail again. The Canaanite language was almost identical to Hebrew. The ancient Hebrews/Israaelites needed no interpreters to understand the Canaanites. The Israelites and Canaanites intermarried and some Canaanites even converted to the Israeli faith and became Israelites themselves, so the claim that Israelites/Hebrews came to Israel/Canaan after the Canaanites is a truth wit a slight modification because many Jews/Israelites back in those days actually had Canaanite ancestry. There is only one ethnic group today that can claim Canaanite ancestry and that’s the Jews/Israelis. The Canaanites completely assimilated into the Jewish nation in the 8th century BCE. Why is Hebrew so similar to the Canaanite language and why is Arabic so different from Canaanite? If Arabs claim Canaanite ancestry, why don’t Arabs speak Canaanite?
12) What kings, dynasties, palaces, temples, buildings, structures, currency, capital, language, alphabet, religion, kingdom, state, nation state, city state, republic, duchy, principality or empire did the “Palestinians” have and why is it that not a single ancient civilization ever mentions – not once, not anywhere, any “Palestinian” people, nation, tribe, culture, civilization, state or kingdom?
You Israel bashers and anti-Semites have to answer these questions.
You are ideologically motivated biased racists that want to steal our 4000 years of Jewish history and erase and replace us from history with an invented “Palestinian” people simply because you cannot accept that Jews have equal national rights among the nations. Denying us national rights merely because we are Jews is racism. Claiming we can’t steal the land from the “Palestinians’ is a blatant and extreme lie of the highest order since the land in dispute has been ours for the past 4000 years. The world would be a lot better place if you could simply lieave this tiny and peaceful country alone and embrace Israel and the Jewish people in the human family – that is, if you are not racists and believe in the equality of human life.
Second Post
And my questions to you Sarah, provided you are a human too are twofold: 1) Why do you insist on calling mutli-ethnic Arab speaking Moslems “Palestinians” when there is clearly no “Palestinian” people to begin with? Do you do this out of malice? 2) Why do insist that IDF kills innocent women and children? Nazi Germany killed 6 million innocent Jewish men, women and children, but that doesn’t mean Jews can claim Germany’s territory. Are you implying that IDF “kills” “innocent women and children” and therefore the Arabs have a moral “right” to call themselves “Palestinians” and to claim Israel?
Why do Arab terrorists slit the throat of Jewish babies? Why do Arab terrorists attack Jews or Israelis? IDF and Israel never kills out of pleasure but out of self defense. IDF targets Arab terrorists – who happen to hide among Arab “civilians”. It means in order to hit the terrorists you must strike buildings in which civilians live. The alternative is not to attack but to keep the Arab terrorists alive so that they can go on killing Israeli/Jewish men, women and children. Would you prefer that instead? Hamas, PLO and Fatah attack ALL Israelis/Jews no matter if they are soldiers or civilians. They attack Israelis/Jews with the explicit intent to kill them because of their Jewish ethnicity. In the normal world, we would call it racism, hate crime and genocidal ideologies. More than 95% of the population of the Arab world believes that hating, attacking and massacring Jews is in order. Do you believe that those opinions are civilized? PLO, Hamas and Fatah hide among their civilians in order to seek refuge from IDF while they relentlessly attack Israeli/Jewish soldiers and civilians. Israeli soldiers protect Israeli civilians and try to minimize the casualties among civilian Arabs. But truth be spoken, the vast majority of the “Palestinians” support mass murder on Jews. Do you think the “Palestinians” are so innocent? Please answer all my questions if you think you are human.
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